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DONE! Die Typen lernen's nie! Vielleicht kommt der SPIEGEL mal wieder in eine Situation, wo er verboten werden soll (so à la 1962). Das Geschrei von denen würde ich liebend gerne hören!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: GRUß

Nun Impulse, ich glaube, dass Dein Posting mit der Sperrung des Telekom-Chefs und dem Mühle auf - Mühle zu den Boden des Zorns bei T.M. schon gut durchgepflügt hat, so dass meine verderbliche Saat aufgehen, wachsen und gedeihen konnte! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :gaga: :gaga: :gaga: GRUß

@ cetus: http://web184.uranus.xtnoc.de/gunboard/viewtopic.php?t=872 13. Posting von mir; die Wartungssache mit den Schrauben, dem Mod-Filter, Katholisator und dem 0W-40 Öl. Ich hatte zwar bei meinem Kalauer nur an WO im allgemeinen gedacht, aber T.M. hatte offensichtlich gedacht, ich hätte ihm empfohlen, die Schrauben bei SICH fester anzuziehen........ GRUß

@ cetus: Ich hab' mein loses Maul mal wieder zu weit aufgerissen, das hat Herrn Marzi nicht gefallen und schwupp hat er die Löschung seines User-Accounts beantragt und seine geistreichen Beiträge durch je 3 Punkte ersetzt! GRUß

http://www.wkyt.com/Global/story.asp?S=1097996&nav=4CAKBL5p Mit diesem Typen habe ich nicht das geringste Mitleid!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: GRUß

http://www.wral.com/news/1932029/detail.html Und das bei den "bible-bashers" im superchristlichen Südstaat North Carolina!!! Die beiden Typen kriegen sicher lebenslänglich dafür! GRUß

Was ist das und wozu brauchen wir sowas??? :?: :?: :?: GRUß

Wozu austreten??? Das FWR, PROTELL und IWÖ mögen nicht viel sein, aber diese Organisationen sind ALLES was wir haben!!! GRUß

Will ja nicht Besserwissen, aber die vorletzte Kamera, die das 24x34-Format hatte war die Nikon M von 1949. Auch das Nachfolgemodell, die Nikon S von 1951 hatte noch 24x36. Dies änderte sich erst mit der Nikon S2 von 1954, die dann endlich das Standardformat von 24x36 aufwies. GRUß

Wenn schon, dann 24X36 Kodak bitte! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: GRUß

@ karaya: Besser mit Waffenrechtsschutzversicherung dastehen, als ohne! Ich bin weiß Gott kein Prozeßhansel, dem einer abgeht, wenn er jemanden verklagen kann. Aber wenn es wirklich mal sein muß, dann will ich auf alle Fälle bis vor den BGH bzw. das BVerfG gehen, sollte ich in den unteren Instanzen kein Recht kriegen!!! GRUß

Ich würde vorschlagen, geben wir dem FWR noch bis zum 01.04.2003 Zeit um seine (hoffentlich effektive) Geheimdiplomatie bei den Politikern durchzuziehen. Aber DANN möchte auch ich eine durchschlagskräftige Öffentlichkeitsarbeit vom FWR sehen!!! DANN soll Frau Meller mal zeigen was sie kann! HOFFENTLICH klappt das, sonst verliere ich wirklich die Hoffnung, dass ich die Aufnahme des 50.000 Mitglieds ins FWR noch erleben werde. Uns bleibt nur das Prinzip "Hoffnung"! GRUß

JEDER ordentliche Okie hat seine Hi-capacity Magazine für seine Glock! Die sind zwar in den USA nach dem Fertigungsverbot von 1994 sehr teuer, aber vor dem Verbot wurden diese in so ungeheueren Mengen hergestellt, dass der Vorrat noch lange reichen wird. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: GRUß

Von User "Marshall" im US-Forum "The High Road": Difference in Liberals, Conservatives and Oklahoman's. (JOKE) I ran across this, thought it to be funny. Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 cal. and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? Liberal Answer: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. Conservative Answer: BANG! Oklahoman's Answer: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click... (sounds of clip being ejected and fresh clip installed). Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids think?" Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..." BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click. Daughter: "Nice grouping Daddy!" Husband: "Darling, could you check your purse for a fresh clip? I seem to have left my other two in the truck with the shotguns." :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: GRUß

Neues zum Thema "Charlton Heston und Alzheimer": http://www.newschannel2000.com/entertainment/1931445/detail.html GRUß

Das Ganze nochmals ausführlicher: Press Association January 23, 2003, Thursday SECTION: HOME NEWS LENGTH: 1108 words HEADLINE: POLICEMAN 'TREATED INSENSITIVELY' AFTER SHOOTING BYLINE: Rachel Williams, PA News BODY: A colleague of a former policeman who is suing his force for a quarter of million pounds after he shot a criminal told today how he was treated in an "insensitive and uncaring" way after the incident. Former firearms officer Andrew Hurley, 34, claims he suffered post-traumatic stress because he was not properly cared for after he shot a robber in the shoulder during a hold-up at the HSBC bank in Newbridge, Gwent, in October 2000. He claims Gwent Police had no policy in place to deal with the aftermath of such events. Mr Hurley was the first officer from the force to shoot a criminal. Today Cardiff County Court heard how Mr Hurley, who has since left the force, was kept isolated from the other officers, and how they had been told they could be arrested if they refused to give blood samples. They were also prevented from washing blood off their hands for several hours after the incident, and were told that a debriefing policy which would have made their ordeal easier had not been adopted, the court heard. Pc Andrew Hughes told the court how he and another officer, David Haywood, were told to stay in a lecture theatre at the Gwent Police headquarters while Mr Hurley was kept on his own in the firearms office. "We were kept apart," said Pc Hughes, a friend of Mr Hurley since 1985 who had served in the Army with him. "We were stopped from going to wash the blood off our hands. "We were told in no uncertain terms that we risked being arrested to get our blood. "We were offered white suits, the same that murderers and rapists are. I would say that was insensitive and uncaring." Pc Haywood, a firearms officer for 10 years, told the court they had been kept in the lecture theatre for at least an hour. "We were constantly asking to see Andrew Hurley and we knew that he must be in an absolute state of shock, and be beside himself with worry," he said. "Nobody would allow us to go near him. "There came a time when we were allowed to see him but it was too little, too late. "I imagine it was easier to keep Andy on his own to put pressure on him to give a blood sample than have us all together. "We were in a very confused and traumatised condition." Pc Haywood said another officer also told them they could be arrested in order to get blood samples, after they twice refused to give such samples. "It was inferred that there was going to be a criminal investigation and power could be invoked to take blood from us," he said. They were later told that there was no threat of arrest but Mr Haywood said he still believed it had been implied initially. "It was distressing enough for us, so God knows what it must have been like for Andy sat in the office on his own," he said. Pc Haywood also said a factual debriefing form had been shown to the officers but that they were not asked to fill it in. "It was being waved around in the office," he said. "There was something said along the lines of 'if we had adopted this policy you would be filling it in and would be on your way home'. "We weren't asked to complete it. We were shown it." Mr Hurley carried on working after the incident but "wasn't himself", Pc Haywood said. "I think he was suppressing his feelings. He certainly wasn't himself. He just wasn't right. He wore a mask. "He was traumatised. He was neglected. "If he had been properly treated after the incident, had there been a post-incident procedure in place, I would still be working with him and he wouldn't be now where he is." A proper debriefing was organised more than two months after the incident on a weekend when the officers involved had all booked time off and were unable to attend, Pc Haywood said. Pc Hughes told the court the officers were told to "shut up" when they started talking about the incident. In a previous statement about the day's events he said they were kept "virtually incommunicado". He conceded that it was probably for reasons of forensic evidence that the officers were not allowed to wash their hands for several hours after the incident, but said it was still unacceptable. "They should have sorted it out far more quickly than by 2pm," Pc Hughes said. "It could have carried some disease. Gwent Police dispute the claims. Mr Hurley, from Newport, is suing Gwent Police for negligence in failing to minimise the risk of psychiatric injury after the shooting incident. The 19-year-old he shot, Cemalettin Ortancil, from Tooting in London, was sentenced in February 2001 to 11 years' detention for stealing £9,000 from the bank. Former constable Stan Scarisbrick, one of the people who was involved in looking after the officers after the shooting, conceded that the post-incident procedure had been flawed. "It wasn't completed in the way it should have been," Mr Scarisbrick said. But he said officers had been offered a factual debrief form to fill in, and in a statement about the day said: "Had Pc Hurley completed the form he would have been allowed home from police headquarters much earlier." Mr Scarisbrick, who gave up work in November 2000 for health reasons, said he would have expected a full debriefing to have taken place earlier than January 5. Chief Superintendent Joy Lott, who had overall responsibility for the officers after the incident, said the procedure she had employed was in line with the relevant chapter of the manual on police use of firearms and Gwent Police's own firearms policy. "I accept there was not an individual force procedure in relation to post-incident procedures," she said. The officers involved in the incident had been trained under the Essex Constabulary's procedure, which Gwent Police has now adopted with some modifications. Chief Supt Lott said she had not been aware in detail of what the officers had been trained to expect. She said she had spoken to all three officers about the request from the investigating team for blood samples but had never meant to imply that they could be arrested if they refused to give them. "I advised them that the request was being made, but I also advised them of the arguments on both sides in relation to such a request," she said. "I was informed that there was some concern over the request and I reiterated what I said earlier. "If they thought I meant otherwise that was absolutely not the case." Chief Supt Lott also said she had offered Pc Hurley counselling but that he had refused it. She also made sure that one of the first things she did after the incident was to contact the Police Federation and a force welfare officer, she said, and both attended. The case was adjourned until tomorrow. GRUß

Aud der "Times-Online" : January 24, 2003 Police marksmen seek stress payout By Simon de Bruxelles TWO police marksmen who say that they suffered stress- related illnesses after shooting a bank robber are suing for compensation. The former firearms officers Andrew Hurley and Alan Edwards blame senior officers for failing to counsel or debrief them after the robber was shot in the shoulder as he tried to escape. Mr Hurley, who is unemployed, is seeking £250,000 compensation at Cardiff County Court from Gwent Police for lost earnings and pension contributions. Mr Hurley, 34, was given a bravery award for shooting the 19-year-old robber — who was, in fact, armed with an imitation revolver — in Newbridge, Gwent, in October 2000. He left the police force five months after the shooting, claiming that he was suffering from stress. Mr Hurley said: “Before the shooting, I regarded myself as a very good officer who gave 110 per cent. Afterwards I . . . became depressed, very anxious and aggressive. I felt let down by the force.” Mr Edwards, 33, told the court: “I was exposed to an extremely frightening incident and there was a total lack of concern and support from senior officers.” Mr Edwards, who did not fire a shot during the incident, has left the force through ill health after being kept on full pay for a year. He is mounting legal action for compensation separately from Mr Hurley. The case continues. Na dann Prost, Mahlzeit!!! Wer von solchen "Freunden und Helfern" geschützt wird, der braucht wahrlich keine Feinde mehr!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :puke: :puke: :puke: GRUß

Nun Andre, in anderen Ländern sind die Verhältnisse auch nicht viel anders! In der Schweiz, in Österreich und selbst in den USA sind nur ein Bruchteil der Legalwaffenbesitzer Mitglieder in den Lobbyorganisationen (Pro Tell, IWÖ, NRA...)! In Deutschland ist diese "Scheißegal-Mentalität" zwar sehr deutlich ausgeprägt, aber woanders existiert sie auch. Wir müssen uns eben damit abfinden, dass die individuelle Freiheit (incl. Legalwaffenbesitz) auf der Wunschliste des Durchschnittsbürgers ziemlich weit unten steht! Hauptsache Brot und Spiele (Fußball, TV, Auto, DomRep., Disco, etc......). GRUß

@ Andre B.. Dem Typen der das gesagt hat, sollte man seine Waffen wegen "Geistesschwäche" und der damit verbundenen Unzuverlässigkeit abnehmen!!! Das darf doch wohl nicht wahr sein!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: Da ist wirklich Hopfen und Malz verloren. GRUß

Das FWR hat heute die 27.000-Schwelle überschritten (27.007)! Meine Güte, geht das zäh!!! :evil: Ob ich es noch erleben darf, dass das FWR endlich die 50.000-er Hürde nimmt??? GRUß

Hi dynamite! DAS würde ich auch gerne mit der Baikal-Puffe machen! :mrgreen: Aber hier in D ist dieses verboten, weil ich damit eine Langwaffe in eine "böse" Kurzwaffe verwandeln würde. Ich würde auch gerne eine Baby-Browning mittels Anschlagschaft und 16"-Lauf in einen flotten Karabiner verwandeln. Ob mir Impulse Austria hierbei weiterhelfen könnte??? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: GRUß

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/104297165543580.xml SO, jetzt ist Alabama wieder ein sicheres und gemütliches Plätzchen in God's Own Country!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 73 Waffen, darunter etliche Luftdruckwaffen und Erbsenpistolen wurden zurückgekauft. :gaga: :gaga: :gaga: Ich hab' da auch noch eine einläufige Baikal-Flinte, die ich Vater Staat GERNE für 500 Teuro verkaufen würde! GRUß

@ dynamite: Ich glaube schon, dass man mit einem schallgedämpften Karabiner im Kaliber .300 Whisper auf 200m präzise und (fast) lautlos schießen kann! GRUß

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/4988577.htm :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: GRUß

Jeder, der den US-Filmregisseur Michael Moore und sein "Bowling for Columbine" toll fand, sollte sich mal DAS hier zu Gemüte führen: http://www.handgunsmag.com/dynamic.asp?intSectionID=342&intArticleID=3373 Der Mann ist ein genauso schlimmer Anti-Legalwaffen-Fanatiker wie Sarah Brady und Konsorten! :puke: :puke: :puke: Wer möchte, kann HIER gegen seine Petitionsaktion zum Stop des Waffen- und Munitionsverkaufs bei der US-Supermarktkette "Wal-Mart" protestieren: http://www.petitiononline.com/GT1776/petition.html :evil: :evil: :evil: GRUß