Hollowpoint Posted July 12, 2006 at 04:56 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 04:56 AM Trotz des Auslaufens das "assault weapons ban", des legalen Führens von Waffen und der vielkritisierten "castle doctrine" SINKT die Kriminalitätsrate in Florida immer weiter. Keines der von den Antis an die Wand gemalten Horrorszenarien wurde Realität! Es wurden keine täglichen Schießereien wegen jeder Kleinigkeit bekannt, keine Ströme von Blut flossen durch die Straßen und die Anzahl der Witwen und Waisen hat sich auch nicht signifikant erhöht. Ach ja: weil hier von Herrn "Bush" die Rede ist..........hier ist Dabblju's Brüderchen gemeint, nämlich der floridianische Gouverneur Jeb Bush! http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/content/gen/ap/FL_Florida_Crime.html Bush: Florida crime rate down to lowest level since '71 By BRENT KALLESTAD Associated Press Writer TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida's crime rate dropped for the 14th straight year in 2005 to its lowest mark since 1971 because of tougher laws, increased financial support from the Legislature and law-abiding citizens with guns, Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday. "This report shows that staying tough on crime works," said Bush. "Law abiding citizens that have guns for protection actually probably are part of the reason we have a lower crime rate." The crime rate, compiled by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, decreased 3.7 percent from 4,855 crimes per 100,000 people in 2004 to 4,677 crimes per 100,000 people last year. The total included 881 murders, 12,230 rapes and 75,204 vehicle thefts. In 2005, the state's law enforcement agencies reported 838,063 crimes compared to 850,490 in 2004, a 1.5 percent decrease. Last year Bush signed a bill that allows people who feel threatened on the street, in a bar, at a ball game — or just about anywhere — to "meet force with force" to defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted. "You send a real powerful signal when you know the citizen has a good potential of being armed and doesn't have to back off anymore," said John Birch, president of the Illinois-based Concealed Carry, Inc. Opponents, however, have said the idea would legalize shootouts in the streets. A telephone message left for comment after hours with the The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington, D.C. was not immediately returned. Bush said he was concerned about the number of murders in the Jacksonville and Orlando areas, where there have already been 120 homicides this year. FDLE chief Jerry Bailey said he has assigned seven agents to help Jacksonville officials with the troubling increase in murders and is working with law enforcement in central Florida on forming a task force. The number of violent crimes in 2005 increased statewide by 1.7 percent although the rate dropped 0.6 percent and nonviolent crime decreased by 4.2 percent. Violent crimes are murder, forcible sex offenses, robbery and aggravated assault. Reports of domestic violence were up slightly and those incidents accounted for more than a fourth of the reported violent crimes and one-fifth of all murders, according to FDLE. "The people that commit the majority of the crimes are habitual offenders," Bush said. "They're the ones that commit a crime after crime after crime." For the second straight year, authorities made more than one million arrests. The 1,056,121 arrests in 2005 represented a 2.6 percent increase. Drug arrests continued to increase, going from 150,334 to 160,649. Last year they increased nearly 10 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bopper Posted July 12, 2006 at 05:39 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 05:39 AM Langweilig.... Gabs schon mal irgendein Horrorszenario der Anti-Gunner, dass auch nur annähernd eingetreten ist?! Die müssen doch mittlerweile in Punkto Glaubwürdigkeit irgendwo zwischen Pinnochio und Münchhausen rangieren... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasenbär Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:04 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:04 AM Leider ist das nicht so .... gibt immer noch genug Leute, die ganz konkret gegen Waffen sind ..... egal warum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bopper Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:14 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:14 AM Leider ist das nicht so .... gibt immer noch genug Leute, die ganz konkret gegen Waffen sind ..... egal warum. Deshalb müsste man aus den Ankündigen der Anti-Gunner und den tatsächlich (nicht) eingetretenen Auswirkungen eine Anti-Anti-Gun-Kampagne machen. DAS wäre doch mal ein Spaß! Da würde die domain "meinungsterror.de" übrigens wunderbar passen... Uups, die ist ja noch aufs Ersatzforum umgeleitet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:18 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:18 AM Die müssen doch mittlerweile in Punkto Glaubwürdigkeit irgendwo zwischen Pinnochio und Münchhausen rangieren... Das mag zwar sein. Aber viele Menschen hören (und glauben) lieber Märchen als die Wahrheit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bopper Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:24 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 06:24 AM Das mag zwar sein. Aber viele Menschen hören (und glauben) lieber Märchen als die Wahrheit. Stimmt leider. Das haben wir ja zur letzten Bundestagswahl wieder schmerzlich erfahren müssen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarcDW Posted July 12, 2006 at 07:21 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 07:21 AM Die Antis sagen natuerlich, dass alleine die guten wirtschaftlichen Verhaeltnisse fuer die niedrigen Verbrechenszahlen verantwortlich sind. Zu den Horrorzenarien ist es natuerlich nach den Antis nur eine Frage der Zeit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightingale Posted July 12, 2006 at 07:57 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 07:57 AM Die Antis sagen natuerlich, dass alleine die guten wirtschaftlichen Verhaeltnisse fuer die niedrigen Verbrechenszahlen verantwortlich sind. Da haben die Antis auch recht, der Kampf gegen die Kriminalität ist hauptsächliche eine soziale Aufgabe. Wenn in Florida die Kriminalität sinkt, dann haben Regierung, Justiz und Polizei eine gute Arbeit geleistet und das sollte man auch mal anerkennen. :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarcDW Posted July 12, 2006 at 07:59 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 07:59 AM Nur das die Antis meinen, dass das ALLEINE der Grund ist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted July 12, 2006 at 08:53 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 08:53 AM "Was scheren mich Fakten - ich habe eine gefestigte Weltanschauung!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford Posted July 12, 2006 at 09:08 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 09:08 AM ... oder "common sense", also "gesunden Menschenverstand". Ein anderes Wort für VORURTEILE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_ch Posted July 12, 2006 at 09:39 AM Share Posted July 12, 2006 at 09:39 AM Selbst wenn man sich über die präventive Wirkung des CCW streiten mag, eins ist sicher die Gewalt hat nicht zugenommen. Und das reicht als Argument etwas nicht zu verbieten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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