Hollowpoint Posted November 28, 2006 at 06:12 AM Share Posted November 28, 2006 at 06:12 AM Es sind halt Limeys, was braucht's der Worte mehr............ :? Erst die Einführung der Katastrophen-Waffe Enfield L85A1 und jetzt auch noch die Beschaffung von Katastrophen-Munition für die KÄMPFENDE Truppe in Afghanistan! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/23/nammo23.xml Cheap bullets put lives of paratroopers at risk By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent Last Updated: 2:15am GMT 24/11/2006 Two paratroopers battle to keep their gun firing The situation became so serious that a platoon from the 3Bn The Parachute Regiment refused to go out on patrol until the problem was resolved. The troops had to borrow ammunition off Canadian and American special forces as they battled to fight off Taliban attacks. The MoD, which yesterday unveiled plans for British troops to make a quicker-than-expected withdrawal from the front line in Iraq, has been unable to explain why defective ammunition for the .50 calibre Browning heavy machinegun was sent to Afghanistan. It is thought that the batch was from either Pakistan or the Czech Republic, where a round costs 60 US cents. The price for British, Canadian or American ammunition is $1.50. With many thousands of rounds fired, using cheaper ammunition would have saved thousands of pounds. A shocking demonstration of the poor quality rounds is shown on a video posted by a paratrooper on the YouTube website. It shows two soldiers in a sandbagged position struggling to operate the machinegun, which can also be mounted on Land Rovers. advertisementOne is shown constantly re-cocking the weapon as his colleague seeks to feed through the ammunition belt. At one point, the Para, who becomes exhausted with the strain of constantly pulling the cocking handle, drops the gun and swears in frustration. All the time incoming enemy fire can be heard. The Browning has given troops in Afghanistan a boost in terms of firepower. It fires 550 rounds per minute and they can penetrate buildings and lightly-armoured vehicles. It is thought that the defective ammunition was designed to fit the Russian-made DsHk 12.7mm heavy machinegun. The bullets are cut with less precision, leading to stoppages when fired from the Browning. A Parachute Regiment officer involved in the fighting said: "The ammo we had was rubbish. It just kept jamming. At one point we refused to go out because it was so bad. Eventually we managed to scrounge some Canadian rounds. "If we had not got that ammo we would certainly have lost a lot of people." After the protest, senior technical officers tested five different batches of ammunition. They were all defective. The Paras obtained ammunition from the Canadians and Americans and it was only when British special forces became involved that the situation was resolved. Rounds were bought from Canadian stocks in Afghanistan. "They refused to believe it was all crap until special forces got involved," the Para said. "After that we had the new stuff within a week." An MoD spokesman said: "There are no current problems with this ammunition.". GRUß Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuergenG Posted November 28, 2006 at 06:39 AM Share Posted November 28, 2006 at 06:39 AM Always remember, that your equipment was supplied by the cheapest bidder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarcDW Posted November 28, 2006 at 08:12 AM Share Posted November 28, 2006 at 08:12 AM Ich kenne den Militaervertreter von Bushmaster und der ist auch ein paar mal im Irak gewesen, weil es Probleme mit den M4 von Bushmaster gab. War dann aber auch schlechte Mun von Portugal! Wobei ich auch Soldaten kenne, die im Irak teilweise sich mit AK47 bewaffnet haben, weil keine 5.56 Munition da war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock17 Posted November 28, 2006 at 03:42 PM Share Posted November 28, 2006 at 03:42 PM Die AK war ja schon in Vietnam beliebt bei den US Truppen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightingale Posted November 28, 2006 at 03:48 PM Share Posted November 28, 2006 at 03:48 PM Wobei ich auch Soldaten kenne, die im Irak teilweise sich mit AK47 bewaffnet haben, weil keine 5.56 Munition da war! Sag dass das nicht wahr ist. So hat der Zar von Russland seine Bauern in den Krieg geschickt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarcDW Posted November 28, 2006 at 03:58 PM Share Posted November 28, 2006 at 03:58 PM Offizell natuerlich nicht, aber ich weiss es von Soldaten die da waren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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